What Gurcharan Singh actually said
In the interest of honesty and openness for which I’m sure all in political blogging circles would agree is important. Here’s what Gurcharan Singh actually had to say on his blog before it got stripped by those who seem to think it might make someone appear a little disingenuous to say one thing less than a fortnight ago and another now.
We’ll just start with what’s there now and no commentary much as it’s very tempting, I’ll leave it entirely up to readers as to the interpretations they conclude from it:
Then there’s the blog how it used to look before the post deletions kicked in.
It’s over to you to judge for yourselves what you think about Gurcharan Singh now.
10th July 2007 in Tory Bashing
PoliticalDoddo responded on 11 Jul 2007 at 9:07 am #
Good work!
What does this tell me?
This tells me that Gurcharan Singh was ultimately betrayed by a party he was loyal to and supported for 30 years!
You have gone to some extreme lengths here to depict him in a bad light. What a shame as I doubt you would have done this 2 weeks ago.
So what he showed reverence to his old colleague Piara Khabra?
So what he was complimentary about his old party leader?
So what he had an optimistic view regarding the future of Labour with Gordon Brown?
All this shows is how committed he was despite the mistreatment he recieved at the hands of the ‘local’ Labour party in Ealing and of course the NEC.
People aren’t as stupid as you may think. I think you should give your blog readers a little more credit as this piece of propaganda just doesn’t wash!!!
Political Penguin responded on 11 Jul 2007 at 9:32 am #
No, what it shows is that he was happy to say one thing one week and the opposite very shortly afterwards. What it does show is that he’s thrown his toys out of the pram when he didn’t get what he wanted. Loyalty and consistency are important traits when one is in politics. Gurcharan Singh has shown by his actions that he has neither.
That shows a lack of political maturity but as I said at the top of this post, the information is there for people to make up their own mind, you have concluded one way, I’m sure many others see things very differently.
PoliticalDoddo responded on 11 Jul 2007 at 9:41 am #
Well personally, I think he will end up being an asset to the Tories in the same way he was for us. As far as loyalty and consistency try 30 years as a Labour party member and 25 years as a councillor. I live in Southall and believe me, allot of people are upset by his leaving. In fact, many advised him to leave. Look at the way the whole selection process was managed – it was a debacle to say the least!? Verendra Sharma is and always has been a nonentity. Many are not happy with the so called choice of candidate.
Oh and I suggest you look at Piara Khabra’s history of switching alegence before you lay down judgment as you’ve done. Didn’t he go from Communist to Labour to Lib Dem and then back to Labour?!
Political Penguin responded on 11 Jul 2007 at 10:19 am #
Hmm, two different e-mail addresses, that’s strange isn’t it PoliticalDoddo. Anyone would think you’re doing a bit of astro-turfing, I’d never expect that on a post criticising the Tories. BTW, what is a Doddo anyway? Never heard of one of those.
You may wish to refer to here for my attitude towards such practices. Strangely enough that was the last time I dared to highlight a Tory of being disingenuous. Touchy lot those Tories, anyone would think they can’t handle a bit of criticism. Also not a very good political trait.
PoliticalDoddo responded on 11 Jul 2007 at 10:30 am #
You really are a super-sleuth aren’t you!
First of all, I’m not a Tory! I am in fact, a Labour Party member!!!
Secondly, how about responding directly to the points I raised. It is you who seem to be selective in your approach politics. If Gurcharan should get a bashing so should everybody else who has ever decided to switch allegance. In particular, the late Piara Khabra – now who’s self serving?!
Honestly, you should give this a rest, your attempts at encouraging a particular attitude have backfired (on me at least). If you want to report things in your blog as though you are some sort of journalist how about a little objectivity and perhaps looking at things from both sides of the fence. But of course, in typical New Labour style, its all spin and no substance…
Excuse my French but what a load of codswallop!
Political Penguin responded on 11 Jul 2007 at 10:58 am #
Strange this idea of demanding answers and expecting that your questions be responded to.
I left a rather nice and polite comment (now deleted) on Gurcharan Singh’s website asking the reason why one of the posts had been deleted, I got no answer but just to show you I’m not of the same ilk, responding to your questions, here goes:
“You really are a super-sleuth aren
PoliticalDoddo responded on 11 Jul 2007 at 11:19 am #
I don’t buy the whole road to Damascus thing. It sounds more like one approach for those you favour and another for those you don’t.
In my mind, Gurcharan Singh and everyone else who moved decided enough was enough. Perhaps the candidate selection would have been his last opportunity to effect some positive change in the Ealing Labour party. Utlimately, who are you and anybody else to judge when you don’t know the full facts and history behind his decision?
Anyway, nevermind about replying, I wont be back. You are not a ‘fair’ blogger. The only thing I can suggest is that you explore your subject matter a little more before you decide to lambast an individual that gave the most part of his life to the causes of your party.
Political Penguin responded on 12 Jul 2007 at 12:33 am #
As PoliticalDoddo has categorically stated that they won’t be back I won’t ask any questions of them given that those I asked before were not answered yet they saw fit to demand answers from me. Got to love these sock puppets.
It’s a curious thing that they have seen fit to criticise me on the basis of claiming I do not have all the facts yet, in an amazing piece of hypocrisy consider themselves fit for pass judgment on myself and describe me as not a ‘fair’ blogger. This conclusion having been reached on the basis of having read three of my posts out of the 209 that I have posted since starting my blog. These being the two referring to Gurcharan Singh and the one I referred them to with regard to the approach I take towards sock puppetry.
Perhaps the most telling part of their last and final comment, as let’s not forget they’ve categorically stated they won’t be back is the last sentence, in particular the last two words ‘your party’. Perhaps a rather clumsy Freudian slip worked it’s way into their comment as PoliticalDoddo had previously stated that they are a member of the Labour Party so surely that should be ‘our’ party? I rest my case.
David Hartley responded on 12 Jul 2007 at 2:32 pm #
He never did explain what a “Doddo” is!
Bob responded on 18 Jul 2007 at 2:30 pm #
A Doddo is an old flightless bird (that through a time loop in evolution actually had large buck teeth instead of a beak) that lived in the isle of Merseyside. Hunted to near extintion by hoards of ravenous tax collectors, the last surviving example fled to a forest of knotty Ash trees to hide. It’s current state is /was unknown until this recent spate of internet activity has raised major concern in the world.