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	<title>Comments on: Joining the 21st century</title>
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		<title>By: Political Penguin</title>
		<link>http://www.politicalpenguin.org.uk/2008/07/joining-the-21st-century/comment-page-1/#comment-617</link>
		<dc:creator>Political Penguin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 23:04:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Never tried them but I would probably have guessed as much. Bit stumped then, I guess it&#039;s easier when you can&#039;t be bothered watching telly. Perhaps there&#039;ll be an explosion in channels porting everything through the net and then it won&#039;t matter. There&#039;s lots on channels out there at the moment with various content. Have you tried something like Miro?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Never tried them but I would probably have guessed as much. Bit stumped then, I guess it&#8217;s easier when you can&#8217;t be bothered watching telly. Perhaps there&#8217;ll be an explosion in channels porting everything through the net and then it won&#8217;t matter. There&#8217;s lots on channels out there at the moment with various content. Have you tried something like Miro?</p>
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		<title>By: stymaster</title>
		<link>http://www.politicalpenguin.org.uk/2008/07/joining-the-21st-century/comment-page-1/#comment-616</link>
		<dc:creator>stymaster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 21:13:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tiscali are pretty woeful, I&#039;m afraid...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tiscali are pretty woeful, I&#8217;m afraid&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Political Penguin</title>
		<link>http://www.politicalpenguin.org.uk/2008/07/joining-the-21st-century/comment-page-1/#comment-615</link>
		<dc:creator>Political Penguin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 22:29:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm... Are we talking music channels, kids channels or the old National Geographic/documentary type channels?

Off the top of my head excluding Virgin and Sky there&#039;s only Tiscali who port it via IPTV that have such a large range of channels. How cost effective that might be to you I don&#039;t know and I&#039;ve no idea how good an ISP they are. Does that help?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm&#8230; Are we talking music channels, kids channels or the old National Geographic/documentary type channels?</p>
<p>Off the top of my head excluding Virgin and Sky there&#8217;s only Tiscali who port it via IPTV that have such a large range of channels. How cost effective that might be to you I don&#8217;t know and I&#8217;ve no idea how good an ISP they are. Does that help?</p>
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		<title>By: stymaster</title>
		<link>http://www.politicalpenguin.org.uk/2008/07/joining-the-21st-century/comment-page-1/#comment-612</link>
		<dc:creator>stymaster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 13:12:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Howdy!

*need*? Probably freeview.

Want? Well, I&#039;d certainly miss some of the channels from my &lt;a href=&quot;http://allyours.virginmedia.com/websales/product.do?id=21&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;current package&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Howdy!</p>
<p>*need*? Probably freeview.</p>
<p>Want? Well, I&#8217;d certainly miss some of the channels from my <a href="http://allyours.virginmedia.com/websales/product.do?id=21" rel="nofollow">current package</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Political Penguin</title>
		<link>http://www.politicalpenguin.org.uk/2008/07/joining-the-21st-century/comment-page-1/#comment-614</link>
		<dc:creator>Political Penguin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 03:12:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, nice to hear from you again. What sort of channels do you need? I can&#039;t say I watch much myself, our house is now technically incapable of receiving UK televisual broadcasting if you don&#039;t include Sky News. We generally only watch German TV these days via Free Sat off the Astra 19 satellite.

I&#039;m playing around with a MythTV setup at the moment apart from having a hideous time getting tuner cards.

I&#039;ll have to get an aerial up sometime before next March though, so I can watch the Formula 1 back on the Beeb though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, nice to hear from you again. What sort of channels do you need? I can&#8217;t say I watch much myself, our house is now technically incapable of receiving UK televisual broadcasting if you don&#8217;t include Sky News. We generally only watch German TV these days via Free Sat off the Astra 19 satellite.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m playing around with a MythTV setup at the moment apart from having a hideous time getting tuner cards.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll have to get an aerial up sometime before next March though, so I can watch the Formula 1 back on the Beeb though.</p>
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		<title>By: stymaster</title>
		<link>http://www.politicalpenguin.org.uk/2008/07/joining-the-21st-century/comment-page-1/#comment-613</link>
		<dc:creator>stymaster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jul 2008 21:37:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have to agree with much you say: Virgin&#039;s &#039;matey&#039; approach pisses me off greatly. They also very obviously throttle youtube.

My usage patterns are similar to yours. No illegal P2P, mostly light email/web, occaisional ISO or .deb downloads, and my systems are all trojan free.

The Indian call centre? I &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.piglet-net.net/pigblog/?p=840&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;gave up&lt;/a&gt;. I only hope they *do* abandon phorm. You see, I have cable TV. The alternative is giving money to that bastard Murdoch, which is just wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have to agree with much you say: Virgin&#8217;s &#8216;matey&#8217; approach pisses me off greatly. They also very obviously throttle youtube.</p>
<p>My usage patterns are similar to yours. No illegal P2P, mostly light email/web, occaisional ISO or .deb downloads, and my systems are all trojan free.</p>
<p>The Indian call centre? I <a href="http://www.piglet-net.net/pigblog/?p=840" rel="nofollow">gave up</a>. I only hope they *do* abandon phorm. You see, I have cable TV. The alternative is giving money to that bastard Murdoch, which is just wrong.</p>
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