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		<title>By: Ian</title>
		<link>http://www.politicalpenguin.org.uk/2010/03/bnp-photo-fail/comment-page-1/#comment-36907</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Mar 2010 01:01:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s highly likely that the depicted family are eastern european. That&#039;s where a lot of stock photography, especially of people, is done because resources and talent are much cheaper</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s highly likely that the depicted family are eastern european. That&#8217;s where a lot of stock photography, especially of people, is done because resources and talent are much cheaper</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://www.politicalpenguin.org.uk/2010/03/bnp-photo-fail/comment-page-1/#comment-36000</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2010 09:32:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that many people are missing the point. If a group organise a political party that is intended to be exclusive, that is pandering to one &#039;racial&#039; (sic) and or national  group then it is in their own interests to carefully select imagery that represents that group (look at what the Nazis did with their blond imagery)  However if the party randomly selects &#039;attractive&#039; people from a catalogue of images without considering their ethnicity or nationality to make a political statement then the party should be taken to task as it reflects on the downright  stupidity of their whole arguement - you would have thought that they would have learnt their lesson  after the Polish Spitfire pilots - or do they think that their electorate are just stupid</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that many people are missing the point. If a group organise a political party that is intended to be exclusive, that is pandering to one &#8216;racial&#8217; (sic) and or national  group then it is in their own interests to carefully select imagery that represents that group (look at what the Nazis did with their blond imagery)  However if the party randomly selects &#8216;attractive&#8217; people from a catalogue of images without considering their ethnicity or nationality to make a political statement then the party should be taken to task as it reflects on the downright  stupidity of their whole arguement &#8211; you would have thought that they would have learnt their lesson  after the Polish Spitfire pilots &#8211; or do they think that their electorate are just stupid</p>
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		<title>By: Bobby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bobby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 23:57:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The BNP are lying Nazi scum - what else do you expect?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The BNP are lying Nazi scum &#8211; what else do you expect?</p>
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		<title>By: jono</title>
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		<dc:creator>jono</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 23:46:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Vice: How old are you?
Helen: 19. Wait, no, 18. 19 next month.&quot;

WOW! Stupidity seems to be a common streak through the voters of BNP, that&#039;s not even one of the best ones from that Vice article.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Vice: How old are you?<br />
Helen: 19. Wait, no, 18. 19 next month.&#8221;</p>
<p>WOW! Stupidity seems to be a common streak through the voters of BNP, that&#8217;s not even one of the best ones from that Vice article.</p>
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		<title>By: WarsawPact</title>
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		<dc:creator>WarsawPact</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 23:34:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Somewhere, there&#039;s a family of British models living on the streets because their jobs have been farmed abroad...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Somewhere, there&#8217;s a family of British models living on the streets because their jobs have been farmed abroad&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Sabcat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sabcat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 20:27:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fair play mate</description>
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		<title>By: Political Penguin</title>
		<link>http://www.politicalpenguin.org.uk/2010/03/bnp-photo-fail/comment-page-1/#comment-35939</link>
		<dc:creator>Political Penguin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 20:00:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A few responses, 

@Joe&amp;Ro, I presume you&#039;re &#039;Rosy&#039; as well as your IP address is the same. Pray tell the reason for giving an alternate name and e-mail address (which looks decidedly false) to leave more comments? If it&#039;s a case of sock puppeting, then didn&#039;t people grow out of that circa 2006 or at least get clever enough not to make it bloody obvious.

@Barbara You answer Rosy/Jo&amp;Ro&#039;s question so no need for me to do so.

@El Propheto! I can only speak for the leaflets that I have personally designed (which is far too many for me to want to think about) but in every case all images of &#039;normal people&#039; have been just that. Regular members of the electorate who we&#039;ve asked to appear and have no problems at all being pictured on a Labour Party leaflet. I accept that some public sector workers should be represented by stock photo/models on account of a need for political impartiality in their profession but the issue here is picture of happy family with caption &quot;Why people like you voted BNP&quot;. If anything it indicates the difficulty the BNP must have in getting any normal member of the public to appear on their leaflets.

@H Johnson There are some truly awful bits of Walsall I&#039;d agree with you on that but it&#039;s not all that bad. Christ, I defended Walsall, must be sick.

@Sabcat Indulge me a little fun at the BNP&#039;s expense. If the objective of the article was to convince people to not vote BNP then yes, I&#039;d agree that it would be a fail but that is not the intention. The way to beat the BNP is to campaign against them, many campaigns I&#039;ve personally run have kept them out of seats they&#039;d probably have won otherwise. I can guarantee I spend a lot more time doing proper political campaigning that includes fighting the BNP than the half hour it took to dig up this little piece.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A few responses, </p>
<p>@Joe&#038;Ro, I presume you&#8217;re &#8216;Rosy&#8217; as well as your IP address is the same. Pray tell the reason for giving an alternate name and e-mail address (which looks decidedly false) to leave more comments? If it&#8217;s a case of sock puppeting, then didn&#8217;t people grow out of that circa 2006 or at least get clever enough not to make it bloody obvious.</p>
<p>@Barbara You answer Rosy/Jo&#038;Ro&#8217;s question so no need for me to do so.</p>
<p>@El Propheto! I can only speak for the leaflets that I have personally designed (which is far too many for me to want to think about) but in every case all images of &#8216;normal people&#8217; have been just that. Regular members of the electorate who we&#8217;ve asked to appear and have no problems at all being pictured on a Labour Party leaflet. I accept that some public sector workers should be represented by stock photo/models on account of a need for political impartiality in their profession but the issue here is picture of happy family with caption &#8220;Why people like you voted BNP&#8221;. If anything it indicates the difficulty the BNP must have in getting any normal member of the public to appear on their leaflets.</p>
<p>@H Johnson There are some truly awful bits of Walsall I&#8217;d agree with you on that but it&#8217;s not all that bad. Christ, I defended Walsall, must be sick.</p>
<p>@Sabcat Indulge me a little fun at the BNP&#8217;s expense. If the objective of the article was to convince people to not vote BNP then yes, I&#8217;d agree that it would be a fail but that is not the intention. The way to beat the BNP is to campaign against them, many campaigns I&#8217;ve personally run have kept them out of seats they&#8217;d probably have won otherwise. I can guarantee I spend a lot more time doing proper political campaigning that includes fighting the BNP than the half hour it took to dig up this little piece.</p>
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		<title>By: Sabcat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sabcat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 16:46:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I reckon the fail here is yours. People who vote for the BNP are not going to do so on the basis of the models on their leaflet. This kind of &quot;exposure&quot; of the BNP is bit of a waste of time, it means nothing. 

I also think the rest of the exposure stuff done by the likes of Hope not Hate, Searchlight, UAF etc is also a complete waste of time. In fact that BBC gig that resulted in Griffin and Collet standing trial this apolitical approach was extremely counter productive. 

In the entire history of British fascism they had collectively got as far as saving one deposit in a parliamentary election. The BNP saved 34 in the 2005 election. 

This might sound like I&#039;m having a go but I&#039;m really not, you are anti BNP and I identify with that but this kind of thing does them no harm at all. Quite the opposite in fact.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I reckon the fail here is yours. People who vote for the BNP are not going to do so on the basis of the models on their leaflet. This kind of &#8220;exposure&#8221; of the BNP is bit of a waste of time, it means nothing. </p>
<p>I also think the rest of the exposure stuff done by the likes of Hope not Hate, Searchlight, UAF etc is also a complete waste of time. In fact that BBC gig that resulted in Griffin and Collet standing trial this apolitical approach was extremely counter productive. </p>
<p>In the entire history of British fascism they had collectively got as far as saving one deposit in a parliamentary election. The BNP saved 34 in the 2005 election. </p>
<p>This might sound like I&#8217;m having a go but I&#8217;m really not, you are anti BNP and I identify with that but this kind of thing does them no harm at all. Quite the opposite in fact.</p>
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		<title>By: Verity</title>
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		<dc:creator>Verity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 15:26:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So Rosy is the &quot;pathetic smear story&quot; all made up? Just like the holocaust where 6 million innocent people were slaughtered by like minded people as yourself? Oh no that never happened did it? Just Othodox opinion. 
The BNP is a joke to the worlds political system, your laughable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So Rosy is the &#8220;pathetic smear story&#8221; all made up? Just like the holocaust where 6 million innocent people were slaughtered by like minded people as yourself? Oh no that never happened did it? Just Othodox opinion.<br />
The BNP is a joke to the worlds political system, your laughable.</p>
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		<title>By: Unpolitical Sea Lion</title>
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		<dc:creator>Unpolitical Sea Lion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 14:50:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rosy = FAIL.

Rosy, why have you not jumped at this opportunity to mock the BNP?!?

Whether other political parties do it or not is beside the point; at least those political parties, if they so desired, could find REAL people who wanted to put their faces on the front of their campaign material (sadly this includes parties such as the UKIP, too, but that&#039;s another matter...)...  

Thankfully, however, this is just a fine example that Real people don&#039;t want anything to do with the BNP, and that they have to find pictures of &#039;normal&#039; looking people from other material to copy and paste it onto their stuff! This can only be a good thing, and we can all breathe a sigh of relief!

It is also hilarious that the BNP think they can get away with using vaguely presentable and &#039;normal&#039; looking people on the front of their campaigns, without realising that this is going to look immediately questionable.

They should just stick with putting Nick Griffin on the front of all their material.  This would at least show the true colours of the kind of people the BNP actually represent = ignorant scumbags of the earth who seek the devolution and disintegration of society as we know it today.</description>
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<p>Rosy, why have you not jumped at this opportunity to mock the BNP?!?</p>
<p>Whether other political parties do it or not is beside the point; at least those political parties, if they so desired, could find REAL people who wanted to put their faces on the front of their campaign material (sadly this includes parties such as the UKIP, too, but that&#8217;s another matter&#8230;)&#8230;  </p>
<p>Thankfully, however, this is just a fine example that Real people don&#8217;t want anything to do with the BNP, and that they have to find pictures of &#8216;normal&#8217; looking people from other material to copy and paste it onto their stuff! This can only be a good thing, and we can all breathe a sigh of relief!</p>
<p>It is also hilarious that the BNP think they can get away with using vaguely presentable and &#8216;normal&#8217; looking people on the front of their campaigns, without realising that this is going to look immediately questionable.</p>
<p>They should just stick with putting Nick Griffin on the front of all their material.  This would at least show the true colours of the kind of people the BNP actually represent = ignorant scumbags of the earth who seek the devolution and disintegration of society as we know it today.</p>
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